Old Photos Of Lake Geneva On Ebay. From Asia?

I am a tad confused this morning, how do old BW images from Lake Geneva wind up in Asia for sale? Are they real? Does it matter? Regardless of my confusion, these are cool images, and appear to be staged, so I am guessing they may have been photographed for a publication. But thats a tad confusing, because if that was the case they would be larger and developed on a different paper? So these look like photo album photos. Then again, all the images they are selling seem to be perfectly on the same paper? And look like they are not on that paper. As in , set up to appear original. And thus once again, AHHHHHHHH, And to add to all this, What are you really buying? The image? The  paper? The Copyright? For what? See, now you are confused like I am, and so it goes. Hello 2023.

No 1 Safety Boat

There are some other images not boat realted

Someone owns this boat today, so this image would be wonderful to have.

The Fire Dept boat

If you want to look through many of the images, Here is a link to one of the images, you can see more by clicking on the seller, or scroll down. I need to go shower now. I feel dirty. NOT IN A GOOD WAY!

Here is the disclaimer written in a clever way. This way if you are not happy with whatever you get, they can say, hey? We said its a reprint. BUT I ask, why make it look old on that paper? Just sell the image? If you look in the feedback section, there is a ton of feedback, lots of it great, and written poorly. The negative gets to the heart of the matter. Just know you are buying a reprint of the image. Now I am going to scrub off all this with some bleach, maybe sand blast myself.. .

10 replies
  1. Matt
    Matt says:

    Yes they are. And for someone, pure gold. And really who cares, the image is the image. And here? So do you need the image if its already out there? More confusing? This does get into a deeper question. One I am sure will milk. Or Powdered milk.

  2. Mike K
    Mike K says:

    I’m sure Capt slats will chime in
    That’s old #1 which you did a story last year about being restored
    I think it was built in the 60’s though
    They did have a few woody safety patrol boats when I was growing up there in the 60’s

    Thanks woodyboater

  3. Kelly Wittenauer
    Kelly Wittenauer says:

    I learned a few years ago, not to put much stock in eBay ratings & reviews. I always consider shipping cost when bidding. Won an item, with reasonable shipping cost stated in the auction. When billing, seller tried to add another $100 to shipping! I contacted eBay, canceled the sale & left a poor review of the seller. Noticed he’d received a few other, similar poor reviews, as well & his rating had dropped. Saw the item relisted a few weeks later, at higher cost & shipping. Same seller, but with a now better rating. All negative reviews, including mine, had disappeared!

  4. Mark in Ohio (sometimes da U P)
    Mark in Ohio (sometimes da U P) says:

    Loved the pictures . I would be neat if who ever owns any of those boats today, saw the pictures. ,and knew the people in them. good stuff. I was at Lake Geneva a few years ago. It was a very neat place. I will go back.
    Please keep Demar Hamlin player for the Buffalo Bills in your thoughts and prayers. Demar suffered cartiac arrest last night during the Bengals vs the Bills game. He is in U C medical center in critical condition at this point.

  5. Floydrturbo
    Floydrturbo says:

    It’s very disconcerting to hear now from multiple people that eBay seller ratings cannot be trusted. Isn’t that the whole concept of the eBay model??? This among other disappointments, such as Twitter revelations of conservative message suppression not to mention obvious media bias, revelations of lies behind the whole pandemic including questionable use of gain of function, actual effectiveness of vaccines and masking, and continued gaslighting of citizens by politicians. I’m assuming this venue is the only thing I can trust?

  6. Slats
    Slats says:

    A while back I was honored to be a part of a committee to help put a book together to commemorate the first 100 years of the Water Safety Patrol. It took a few years, but we got it done in time for 2020. My tasks were to work on the history of the boat crew and her many boats to have been a part of it through the years. In my research, I found all of the above photos online through the University of Wisconsin Milwaukee digital database. I ordered some of the digital images.
    Perhaps the folks at the AsiaMuseum Ebay account are making copies themselves? If anyone is interested, and would like a copy of the pictures from a secure place, trust the UWM Library. They were great to deal with.

    https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsnorth/search/searchterm/wisconsin!Clarence%20W.%20Sorensen%20Collection%20-%20Safety%20Negatives/field/statep!para/mode/exact!exact/conn/and!and/page/1

    As for the images you found, well I think they’re pretty sweet.

    The header photo-the one with all the people in it-is a tour boat that is still owned by Gage Marine. The boat’s name is “Gypsy.” From my knowledge, she is a triple cockpit Hacker, from post war years. She was put in storage way back when. They changed her up a bit by widening the cockpits to make room for more people onboard when she was in use. Gage Marine still owns her as far as I know. They took her out of storage about 10 years ago or so and soaked her to see how her bottom was holding up. After a day or so of soak time, her bottom swelled up in no time. It would be nice to see her out and about once again.

    The photo of the two gentlemen on board the previous Boat #1 was taken outside the then patrol headquarters at the Riviera. That boat is the previous Boat #1 which was a Hackercraft as well and served from the mid 40’s to 1965. I wasn’t able to confirm what year that image was from, but it must be between 1957 and 1965. The man behind the wheel is David Williams, a long time member of the boat crew who went on to serve on our board of directors and also municipal court judge.

    The next pic, you see the side profile with registration numbers. Again, from the Riviera docks. It’s awesome to think that when the current boat was built by Bill Budych and Dude Assman, they reused the original hardware from the previous boat on the current boat.

    No clue who the Cargill guys are, but it’s a nice looking truck.

    The fire boat has long been replaced. I have notes on it somewhere. One of its later replacements made it into the Keeanu Reeves’ movie “Chain Reaction.”

  7. Troy in ANE
    Troy in ANE says:

    Prints, reprints, China, or China, Maine – Whatever!

    What really interests me in Patrol Boat 1.

    In these photos she has a cutwater, and it looks like her numbers are only on the port side. Also siren and two search lights.

    In this header (one of my favorites BTW) there is no cutwater, siren, or search lights.

    • Troy in ANE
      Troy in ANE says:

      In the story you did last June you include this picture of her new cutwater.

      I wonder if the photo’s in this story are of the original boat that Bill Budych and Dude Assman copied, as reported by Texx in August of 2013. It does not read like the original boat was ever painted up as Patrol Boat #1, so I suspect it is the same boat as today’s #1.

      • Mike K
        Mike K says:

        Troy I know slats tried to post today but it didnt take

        New cut water is the regular Streblow cut water as it was restored by Streblow

        Same registration numbers now as in the eBay photo

        Thanks
        Woodyboater

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